Trading, negotiating and gifting with slash commands

The rewrite has changed the way of trading with the new market system. This blog will teach you how to use it.

thelazytownie

TheLazyTownie

7 min read

September 5, 2022

While pls trade might be gone now, trading with other people is still possible thanks to the market system. Below you will learn how to utilize the market to buy, sell, exchange and negotiate for profit (or to turn in a bundle and be one step closer to that shiny Collector Badge).

How does the market work?

  • The market is a global trading system. It works similar to a player market you might see in some MMO games (or the Steam Community Market if you've ever used that). Players post buying or selling offers that anyone can see (and accept).

How to see what's on the market?

  • To see what's on the market currently, it's as simple as running /market view. Below you can see a snippet of what's on the market.

market view command, no item filter market offers, no item filter and all offers shown

However, this isn't the most useful way of doing it. What if you don't want to wade through hundreds of offers for an item you don't want to sell? Well, there's a solution for that with the item_filter flag. Let's say you want to sell some fish to another player. In that case, you can do the following: /market view item_filter:Common Fish

market view common fish fish on the market

Much better! Additonally, you may be able to filter through those even more with the dropdown select menu. market filter Maybe you want to just sell your fish for coins? Filtering it down is as simple as this market filter filtered And after you click away, the market embed gets refreshed with the filters you set. filtered market fish

NOTE: A buy offer on the market means that the person who posted it is BUYING the item. A sell offer means the poster is SELLING. Therefore, if you want to sell, they will buy (and vice versa).

And with that, you learned how to search through the market itself. As you might have noticed in the footer of the embed, offers are sorted by their fairness value. And you might be asking yourself:

What is the fairness value?

In simple terms, fairness value is how good of a bargain the offer is for the person ACCEPTING the trade. Is someone buying an item for more than the average value? Their offer is considered extremely fair for the person selling that item, so it gets bumped up and is shown higher on the list. Or maybe someone is selling an item for a cheaper price? That offer is then considered extremely fair for the buyer.

In other words, the better the deal for the accepting person, the higher the offer gets placed. That way if you quickly want to sell something, post a sell offer with a price lower than usual, and your item will sell in no time. (or post a higher price if you're buying it, and people will jump on the offer extremely quickly).

How do I accept an offer?

After you've found an offer you'd like to accept, all you need to do is click the Accept[IDhere] for the offer. After that, a confirmation window will be shown. Clicking Confirm will finish the trade and the offer will be complete. Alternatively, you can use /market accept <ID> [quantity]. ID is the offer ID you can see on /market view, and the quantity is used in partial accepting (more on partial accepting below).

Example of accepting a market offer: accepting a market offer

You might have also noticed partial offers. That's for buying or selling one part of the full offer itself (for example, selling 10 fish out of 1000 listed on the offer. You can find more info on that HERE

How do I post offers?

So, you've learned how to accept offers and the basics of how the market works and you really want to sell an item. However, there's a problem: You didn't find any good deals. Well, it's time to learn how to make and post a market offer of your own! That's done through the /market post command. Here, we're going to go through posting an offer where we sell a few Lassos for some coins. Because we're selling an item for coins, we're going to be using /market post for_coins with the sell type. We're going to post 5 of them for sale, for 1.2 million coins, for a single day and partial accepting set to True. This is how that looks like: posting lassos

a fee appears

But wait, what is this fee?

You can think of the fee as a new tax system. Once the person pays the fee, the offer will be posted. This also serves as an anti-troll(abuse) system, as the fee is based on the value of the trade. So in case someone wants to sell a fish for 20 billion coins (or someone wants to buy a blob for 2), they'll also have to pay a hefty fee for the offer to even be accepted, so they're effectively losing money.

Fees never get refunded, even if the offer times out. The fee also increases the longer the offer is posted (the days you put in the /market post command).

  • Note: Premium users pay half of what non-premium users would pay in fees.

Now, you can pay the fee with almost anything as long as it is equal value, for example: ways to pay the fee And after paying the fee with your item of choice (or coins), the offer is there if you look at the market, with the Mine flag: my offer

What if I made a mistake and want to change my offer?

You can do that extremely easily using the /market edit command. Just provide the ID of the trade and the new values. editing an offer

NOTE: you cannot edit offers that allow partial accepting.

How do I know my offer was accepted?

You will get a DM from the bot saying your offer was accepted (name was omitted): offer accepted

What happens if no one accepts my offer and the time runs out?

Your items get refunded. However, the fee you paid will not get refunded.

Alright, I know how to post an offer, but what price tag should I even put on it?

That is completely up to you! Just remember, if you make a better offer for the other person, the sooner it will be accepted. To get a general idea of what the items are selling for, you can do a few things:

  • check /item. Each item has it's trading price listed
  • check marketplace logs in DMC. This channel contains all completed trading offers, and you can use discord's search feature to quickly check how much something is selling for. (You need to be a member in our Community Server in order to see this channel.
  • discuss prices with others! Engaging with other players will give you some idea on how much an item is worth, what items might be getting more expensive, and what might be getting cheaper.

This all sounds good, but how do I negotiate with someone?

Great question! It's quite a simple process. Here's a mock example of a negotiation and a trade. Once you've settled on the price, one person makes a buy/sell offer, they get the offer ID and the other person accepts it. Simple and effective.

Here's one example of a negotiation: conversation or something

Great, I can negotiate and trade for profit. What if I want to give something to a friend as a GIFT?

There's a solution for that too! With the friend system, you can share items and coins without any tax or other fees. All you and your friend need is an available friend slot.

How do I get friend slots?

Friend slots are gained at certain levels. Those levels are 5, 50, 100, 250 and 500. Premium users have double the friend slots.

Additionally, prestiging or going omega automatically gives you all 5 (10 if premium) friend slots.

Okay, both of us have a friend slot available. What's next?

Add your friend with /friends add <user>. After you've added each other, you can share items/coins with /friends share. adding a friend sharing is caring

Fun fact: If you are friends with someone, you can gift coins and items even while in passive! Also note, friends can steal from each other while in passive as well. Choose your friends wisely.

Wait, can't I use this system to trade instead?

Short answer is no. Long answer follows:

  • Adding someone as a friend just to trade and removing them afterwards is against our Bot Rules, specifically Rule 9.
  • After you remove someone as a friend, that slot doesn't get freed immediately. You still have to wait a week before you can add someone else.
  • As mentioned above, people who are friends with you on Dank Memer can also rob you without issues. That can be a very big risk if you think about it.
  • In addition to being robbed, you could also get scammed. You might plan on trading, but the other person could very well just scam you by not giving you anything in return.

In conclusion

The market system may be extremely confusing at first, but it's a straightforward process that works smoothly and allows you to trade with people in ANY server! Plus the fact that it is global easily lets you find the best offers, or to have your own offers be seen by everyone. No more worrying about getting scammed when going to someone else's server, or posting trading ads in 30 different places hoping to find a worthwhile trade.

In fact, most of the screenshots above were done in DMs with Dank Memer, no server required! Of course, the negotiation and adding a friend took place in a server as you can't have group DMs with a bot.

That's all for now, happy trading and best of luck in getting that Collector badge!

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